The most likely outcome of he restaurant is failure. It’s extremely difficult to start new businesses anywhere, but especially in Tribeca where rents are high. Everyone in this discussion imagining a runaway ‘success,’ with dancing after midnight, mimosas on Monday mornings, and crowds of drunks harassing local school kids, are simply delusional. — J on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

People need to realize that Tribeca shouldn’t be run by children — B on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

This is a formula to yield tribeca into greenwich village — sally on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

Things to consider; Look at what they are asking for- Doorman – required for their business model due to liability with alcohol, bottomless, mimosas ID check Cover charge and bottomless drinks - is a club model Cover charge tax is lower than liquor tax (Cover charge also mostly cash) If they do not have cover charge, but they get it out of the food price, the bottomless drinks is still a club model hook. Restaurant wide drink specials not limited to the bar but at dining tables is a night club model. Spontaneous dancing around dining tables at a restaurant, mimics cabaret or Dance floor nightclub. This is a way of getting around having a legitimately, licensed dance, establishment, or nightclub. — 200 Chambers Street Resident on New restaurant coming to The Palm space

No offense but speak for yourself.. im tired of reporting placard abuse to 311, calling city council, tweeting, I even have NYPD1 contact number on my phone that I use when one of their cars is parked in front of my building blocking the entrance.. That said that doesnt exempt this guy from disturbing our neighborhood. — Richard on The Post answers a Nosy Neighbor

I live around the corner and think this is a horrible idea for those of you that want a lively corner with drunken fights and loud party goers, Move to Chelsea and leave our neighborhood wonderfully quite. — Dizzy on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

“when he was asked about live music and he was like “oh yes, instruments like harp and cello”” Bro, this is a just a sarcasm. — john on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

Is there a timeline for this project? Also curious about the North-East corner here as well. I believe that was also supposed to be a new building. Any update with that? — Randy on Renderings revealed for 277 Canal at Broadway

To be fair, I think people in the neighborhood (and all over the city) recognize that placard abuse is a problem. The issue is I think that people feel they have limited recourse to solve it given the enforcement mechanism is run by those who abuse placards themselves. Plenty of people use 311 to report these problems. — River Terrace Reader on The Post answers a Nosy Neighbor

I love how everybody in the neighborhood is picking on this guy and yet they do absolutely nothing when placard abuse runs rampant and the folks that work at Stuyvesant high School are consistently blocking handicap accessible sidewalk access. — Thomas on The Post answers a Nosy Neighbor

How is that even legal? why is that car not towed away? Its not only an eye sore .. its dangerous... how can it be legal to move the car like that, even if its just a block... — Richard on The Post answers a Nosy Neighbor

What do you mean "essentially a highway"? It has traffic lights on every block and a 30 mile an hour speed limit. It's a wider than a usual street but it's not even close to being a highway. — John Tiller on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

I don't have an opinion on whether this restaurant is bad or good, because in a city where people defecate and sleep and shoot heroin in the streets (yes, in Tribeca, too), not much can make a difference in the long-run. It's unequal, corrupt and, as can be evidenced by hostility that such discussions provoke, its citizens tend to prioritize their opinions, no matter how uninformed, over the diligent pursuit of communal happiness via communication. I did watch the board meeting out of curiosity. Here are some impressions. The owner of the restaurant, Mr. Celestin, talked about gaining Michelin guide mentions, corporate parties from big business, and power breakfasts. He called Chambers street "Cambridge street", had no idea about the block's specifics and, unlike other applicants for other restaurants in the area presenting during the meeting, did not try to pretend he even cared an iota about what people thought of him—one might even say it was refreshing honesty. Mr. Celestin wasn't much interested in the pursuit of objective truth, either. He told the community and the board that the application did not include cover fees. When it was pointed out that they actually were, he feigned ignorance. When asked why the community board meeting notice was not posted on time, Mr. Celestin said it was due to the window washing at 200 Chambers. Which is interesting, because the window washing happened on the facade, and the notices were hung from the inside of the restaurant. Why the notice also misinformed the audience by specifying that the meeting would be held offline, as outline in the article, was not addressed. As a big admirer of satire, I thoroughly enjoyed Mr. Celestin in action: when he was asked about live music and he was like "oh yes, instruments like harp and cello". Aw. He also insisted that the restaurant would be different from the Long Island location known for its bottomless brunches and loud music—despite the fact that the application had the Long Island restaurant's exact menu, and the same name. I'd wager it's not the lack of imagination that drives Mr. Celestin forward but his great admiration for sophistics—that one shared interest could make him and local residents the best of friends. But, alas. Mr. Celestin had stated himself that he'd read the comments on Tribeca Citizen. This is likely what forged his decision to go into this as a battle, not as an opportunity to try to make friends. However, once the board expressed the opinion that dancing was a no-go, he was instantly as meek and mellow as a lamb, as he told the board about how important the American Express corporate event was to him, and how they can't cancel dancing for it at the very least. I think it's an interesting aspect of the situation, and invite others to tune in to tomorrow's meeting. It will be a fun time, I'm sure, and you can observe some interesting character drama at the very least. I wish I could offer some sketches on the residents against the restaurant, but they were pretty much replicating what's been said in the comments. I'll end with a fun local fact: Fika coffee shop on Desbrosses, for instance, used to have discounts for their building's residents, and likely it's not the only establishment to have done so: because that's one example of how you build relationships between the residents and the commercial tenant. The elephant in the room, as big as the new PS 234's ridiculous scaffolding, remains: what is missing from the streets of New York, is communal affinity. No one wants to hear the other people out, everyone wants to state their opinion and fume, or perhaps fool everyone into submission. But hey, at least we can have $85 mac and cheese and endless smoke shops. Jacob Riis would be proud! — Severine Ledoux on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

Omg, cover charges! A doorman! Live music! Heaven forbid! — Reademan on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

Looks great! Any word on development of the opposite, northwest, corner? I thought there were plans to develop that as well. Also, any idea if the public toilet and counterfeit bazaar, I mean parking lot, at 411 Broadway will ever be developed? — Marcus on Renderings revealed for 277 Canal at Broadway

This article is based on non sense. Totally different story than what the restaurant proposed. — Jane on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

Oh no, bottomless brunches … there goes the neighborhood! For perspective….. Catastrophic was 9/11. This is a restaurant. Eva and Nick should consider moving to the suburbs. This is NYC. As it is, Tribeca has no personality anymore. Business closings are rampant. I welcome this. Also I’m tired “Family Friendly” stereotype that is constantly shoved down our throats. Tribeca isn’t just for kids. I raised a family here but I also understood and respected the fact that Tribeca is part of NYC, and an urban lifestyle comes with it. Are kids exposed to things earlier than their counterparts in the burbs? sure. And if this doesn't suit you, perhaps city living isn't for you. This restaurant isn’t exposing kids to anything inappropriate. This protest is ridiculous and entitled and NIMBYish. — Vale on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

The above comments are uninformed. This is not "quiet" nightlife. The application specifically calls for "live amplified music, DJs, sub-woofers, a doorman, cover charges, and soundproofing" as well as bottomless brunches with unlimited alcohol beginning as early as 10am. There is no place that any of the above posters can point to in Tribeca that is like the proposed establishment. Before you start throwing around words like "frivolous" and "preposterous" take a look at the application and inform yourself on what exactly is being proposed. This isn't NIMBY-ism, the objections are thoughtful and based on the actual application, Community Board hearing on June 14th, and other facts. The proposed establishment is a dramatic departure from anything in the neighborhood. Why would a restaurant spend the money on a doorman if they don't expect a rowdy bar scene with anticipated lines and/or patron intoxication? They aren't doing it to be nice- they are incurring the cost of a doorman because they know what they are expecting! Furthermore instead of attacking each other why don't we look at the root cause- the landlord - Jack Resnick & Sons. From what I understand they wouldn't work with The Palm (a long time tenant) on adjusting the rent. Instead they have found a tenant that will accept the space "as is" and won't require any renovations which is typically a cost absorbed by the landlord. Resnick will try to get the quick buck and doesn't care about 200 Chambers or the community which is their right as a landlord but it's still very disappointing and I think short sighted!   — Facts on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

Reminds me of “Footloose” too! The objections do sound irrational and overly dramatic. The Palm had a good bar scene too and people could spend the evening there getting sloshed. They could talk and smoke outside the door as well. The only difference with the new restaurant is the live music and with that, I think the only concern would be acoustic. It would be reasonable for the residents to want some assurance that the sounds from the band won’t be audible in the residential portion of the building. There are acoustic tests than can be done if need be. But aside from that, the hoopla seems overblown. — SW on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

I am not worried about dancing or brunch for me it’s the 1am Thursday-Saturday as it will create a lot of noise and hard to sleep for us who live above the restaurant. I know many people in the neighborhood what got venues to close earlier for that reason, as it is a residential building. Otherwise it sounds fun, I would also be excited if it was on another street. — Tribeca citizen on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

Agree — Mike on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

Yes! Great use. The operator will be supper vigilant because of all the Type A’ers bossing the neighborhood around. I vote yes to wake this neighborhood up. West Side Hwy is noisy anyway. I vote yes and I live close by. Chu hi — TG on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

I am not sure who is misleading this. But this is what we received as the residents of 200 chambers “ The tenant is applying for a “Full liquor license with recorded, live acoustic and DJ music and patron dancing. Full Service Restaurant and Bar”. As yet, there is limited specific information contained in the application. We do know that the applicant currently operates an existing restaurant (in a different location) with events offering unlimited alcohol and DJ parties, which is a concern. We are still gathering information about the 206 West Street venue’s specific intent.” — john on Neighbors oppose plans for The Palm space

In other words: “extortion” If you want to commit any crime in the United States, just do it with an automobile and there is a 95% probability the police will either default to calling it an “accident” and/or won’t put in the bare minimum effort to enforce existing laws on the books. — Reader on Reade on The Post answers a Nosy Neighbor

I had written the army corps when you first posted about this awful plan and heard nothing back from them. There is a much better alternative to protect these areas at the narrowest points of waterway like they do in London with the Thames. The flood gates can be opened and deployed when necessary and much less intrusive when not needed There is a much better, modern and clever way to do this than this very army like fortifications approach! — Rohin on In the News: The Oped we’ve been waiting for