Seen & Heard: Gubernatorial debate tonight at Pace

Pace University will live-stream the first and only debate for candidates Governor Kathy Hochul and Representative Lee Zeldin tonight starting at 7p for one hour on NY1. The debate will be moderated by Susan Arbetter and Errol Lewis. There will not be a live audience. Tune in online here.

PS 234’s used clothing sale, Friends & Fashion, is on this week starting today through Friday at 310 Greenwich, next to Washington Market Park. New and very gently used designer and contemporary apparel and accessories will be for sale, donated by the parent community. Hours are Monday to Thursday 9a to 6p, and Friday 9a to 5p.

Hudson River Park will host its annual release of the fishes — where they return the fish and invertebrates all caught within the park for its exhibits — back into the river on Thursday, Oct. 27, from 4 to 7p at the Wetlab at Pier 40. Visitors of all ages are welcome to learn about NYC’s coastal waters from HRPK’s River Project team.

I’ve been wanting to solicit comments on this sign for ages — what do we think of Vesey as the southern border of Tribeca? I am not buying. I’ve always used Park Place, but then again, 100 Barclay is certainly in Tribeca, but then again again, I don’t think of 7 WTC as in Tribeca… So maybe it is Vesey? No?



  1. It was originally Chambers. I now think of the southern border as Murray Street. Murray is also the northern border for Downtown Alliance, so for me that’s the border.

  2. the governors debate will also be available on wnyc am 820 and wnyc fm 93.9.

  3. It is not Vesey, or Park Place. IMO there is a 1-2 block long swath of Murray Street and Warren Street that is plausibly historic Tribeca. Otherwise Chambers Street is the southern end of Tribeca.

    • Well, I am including Murray and Warren no matter what. But just to add to the discussion: the PS 234 zone is the north side of Liberty!

  4. The southern border of Tribeca is the north side of Murray Street.

  5. Historically, Murray Street was part of the Washington Market area and held many food brokers offices. I guess you have to chose between historic boundaries and the current day. If the latter, you can make the borders as elastic as you like. Or, as the real estate industry degrees! I’d vote for Washington Market over Tribeca any day but it is probably much too late for that.

  6. For purposes of FiDi Fan Page, I count everything south of Chambers as FiDi, but officially (for the Community Board and the Downtown Alliance) the border is everything south of Murray and includes the south side of Murray (west of Broadway). It remains Chambers east of Broadway.

    That said, never have the neighborhoods of the Financial District, Tribeca and Battery Park City been so intertwined and connected as they are today and that will continue.

  7. I think it initially may have been Chambers Street, but I would say Murray or Park Place “feels” like the border. Vesey is definitely the FiDi.

    It also depends on who you ask and what their incentives are. Folks in the real estate industry may want the have a more expansive interpretation of the neighborhood.

    I know some rich dude I met who lives in Tribeca once said the eastern border ends at Church Street (to exclude riffraff from the neighborhood I suppose). I think most would certainly say Broadway the eastern border.

  8. I have lived and worked on Murray St since 1981. It is my understanding that Tribeca ends in the middle of our street. That is what CB1 says I believe

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