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In the News: Suits against congestion pricing
NJ SUING THE FEDS OVER CONGESTION PRICING
The Times (and everyone else) reported that New Jersey is suing the federal government to halt congestion pricing — arguing that the program will put an unfair financial burden on its residents. (It also argues that it will put environmental burdens on New Jersey, which is so dumb I am not even going to include it.) From The Times: “The lawsuit argues that New Jersey drivers who need to reach Manhattan for work should not have to pay…and calls for a more exhaustive study than the M.T.A.’s assessment — which is tens of thousands of pages long — saying that the authority did not do an adequate job of studying whether the tolling program would harm people in disadvantaged communities.”
…AND ET TU, STATEN ISLAND?
The SI Advance reports that Staten Island Borough President Vito Fossella “announced on Sunday he plans to file a lawsuit against agencies responsible for enacting the New York City congestion pricing plan, saying it is ‘an anti-driving tax.'” DUH! That’s exactly what it is! I generally think if New Jersey and Staten Island drivers are against it, we are onto something…
AN EMERGING DESIGN STAR
Architectural Digest features eight emerging design stars, “new American voices,” including Jae Joo, who lives in Tribeca. She opened her firm in 2017 and does interiors, often historic renovations. “She sees harmonies between the disciplines of music and design. Both, she explains, involve ‘mixing old and new, lots of teamwork, and collaborating with experts in their fields.’ Her eclectic interiors eschew anything ‘too precious, pretty, or predictable’ in favor of understatement and comfort. … ‘I think about what mood I want,’ she muses.”
CONSTRUCTION RESUMES AT 125 GREENWICH
Yimby reports that construction has resumed on 125 Greenwich, the 88-story residential tower just south of the World Trade Center. The building was designed by Rafael Viñoly Architects and developed by Fortress Investment Group and Bizzi & Partners. “The structure will yield 273 condominium units designed by March & White and marketed by Douglas Elliman Marketing Development, which is aiming to launch sales later this fall.”
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Your statement is perfect: I generally think if New Jersey and Staten Island drivers are against it, we are onto something…I agree 1000%
Agree on reducing cars from outside Manhattan from entering.. but its INSANE whoever owns a car in this special area, aka Tribeca, have to pay this new tax (call it as you wish its a new tax on car owners, period) and for what? to put more money into the MONEY PIT that is the MTA??? INSANITY
While the MTA is far from perfect, it maintains one of the world’s longest and most complex subway systems, which is quite literally the lifeblood of the city and it’s economy.
Nearly anyone that can afford to live in Manhattan nowadays can afford the incremental cost, and there will almost certainly be carveouts for the indigent and disabled amongst us.
Enough w the hyperbole; congestion pricing has visibly improved quality of life and pedestrian safety in many other major cities around the world. We’ll be just fine, and likely be thrilled with its outcome (less auto traffic, quicker commutes) in years to come.
Congestion Pricing is nothing more than a money grab. NYC is expensive enough. MTA needs to learn how to budget its own finances. Congestion Pricing will make nobody travel to NYC. Don’t forget toll evasion once this kicks in will sky rocket just like fare evasion has on the buses and subways. To me this is taxation without representation. Too many dumb New Yorkers voted for Kathy Hochul over Lee Zendin. If Lee made it this would be a dead issue.
Do you even know what ‘taxation without representation’ means? In your next sentence you literally mention an election that you think would have changed the outcome.
The selfishness never ceases to amaze me with this issue. But it’s also ironic, since lower congestion would make driving less stressful, anyway. And don’t some of you at least take the subway sometimes? How do you all get around? If you have the kind of money to drive or take car share everywhere, then this really shouldn’t even register.
I went to Lincoln Square AMC yesterday to see Oppenheimer on IMAX. On the 2, it was a stress-free 20 minutes. I checked Google Maps for a traffic estimate, and a car would have been about 45, and 10-15x the price.
Lol @ “nobody will travel to NYC”. Why don’t we place a $1 million bet on that statement, if you truly believe that sort of rambling nonsense.
And to be clear, this is very much taxation WITH representation, as a clear majority of New Yorkers, and NYC residents, voted for leaders that strongly and very openly support congestion pricing. Having lived a considerable part of my adult life in a part of the United States where I paid a ton of federal income tax without a Senator or Congressperson to represent my interests in Congress (or protect my family and neighbors from hordes of treasonous vigilantes), I’d suggest you spend a little time with a high school civics textbook before spewing gibberish.
I am afraid this congestion pricing will be the final nail on the coffin for our beloved Manhattan Chinatown. The residents there are mostly low income and elderly. The goods and services will be jacked up with congestion pricing. This is just another way for government to screw over a marginalized community. First is the mega jail and now it’s congestion pricing. Welcome to America!
Could you be any more condescending?
I am so fed up with NYC government and Fed. I will not vote for democrats anymore.
Most Americans are so brainwashed into thinking that an auto-centric lifestyle is the only way to live “well” that we’ve collectively come to accept unnecessary pollution (incl electric cars, as half of auto pollution comes from other components, like tires and brake fluid), wasted time via terrible auto commutes, thousands of annual auto “accidents”, and a lack of everyday exercise and meaningful community interaction that would otherwise predominate in a less auto-dependent world.
Like many others, I spent my childhood/adolescence dependent on a car in a typical American suburb, and can’t imagine ever wanting to choose that lifestyle over what NYC (despite its flaws) provides us. I wish more Americans were provided the opportunity to live a walkable, urban lifestyle, which would have been possible (and may still be possible) had we not intentionally designed our suburbs to be almost entirely auto dependent.
Congestion pricing can’t come soon enough! And yes, the whole point is to make driving less appealing :).
Ah need CP because there is too much congestion….
But OK to keep creating more congestion with new development, luxury buildings for wealthy people with huge carbon footprints such as 125 Greenwich (88 stories) or the scene of today’s crane collapse – a 50 story building under construction 10th Avenue and 41st Street.
Or a casino.
The hypocrisy and dishonesty of NYC, the MTA and TransAlt is mind-boggling
There is too much automobile congestion. There is not too much people congestion. Are you seriously saying we shouldn’t build housing in a city with a dire housing shortage? Why even live here if you don’t like density?
The casino should be a non-starter; agreed on that at least.
malcom,
A 50 story luxury residential building does not help create affordable housing – it snowballs gentrification.
Luxury buildings also generate vehicles – delivery, service, Uber.
And the location by the Lincoln Tunnel will only add to congestion and dangerous streets.
“Congestion” pricing should only be in effect during rush hour travel times. Why is this planned as a 24/7 measure? It should not be called congestion pricing when it will not be operating at peak traffic rush hours only. Call it what it really is- a 24/7 tax for drivers entering or leaving the city (who already pay a fee to enter/leave the city) to support the mismanaged MTA.
Do we know if congestion pricing will exempt all the government workers, police, firemen, etc. that drive downtown (and park illegally)? I haven’t seen anything about it. I’m assuming they are, because otherwise I think we would hear be hearing from them.
Have not heard of any exemptions.
Personally I am OK with firefighters – who protect me – driving in.
On the other hand, am not OK with all the Ubers used by affluent residents.
BTW the new Manhattan prison will likely mean more vehicles in that area as many Corrections staff live far away, not accessible by public transportation.
Good point about the prison. I hope they figured that into their salaries.
In the name of Congestion Pricing, politicians feel that it is their right to take as much money as they can from the residents and visitors of Manhattan. And some people in Manhattan are thinking that is ok.
Elitist
Firefighters and police have to drive in bc all the middle class housing that was specifically built to make affordable with their low salaries has gone market
Sty town Peter coopers was specifically built for fdny nypd jurisdiction requirement
Gateway plaza
Seaport Fulton houses
And the independence plaza have all left stabilization thanks to Andrew Cuomo